Been There Got Out Podcast

He Was Alienated From All 4 Kids... Then His Daughter Made This Call

Chris & Lisa | Jon McKenzie Season 2026 Episode 360

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He hadn't heard from one of his four daughters in four years. Then she reached out. And the first thing she said changed everything.

Jon McKenzie, founder of @malevictimsoffemalenarcissists (IG) and a returning BTGO guest, joins Lisa to share something that happened just two weeks before this recording: his adult daughter reached out after four years of complete silence, asked to rebuild their relationship, and opened with the words every alienated parent needs to hear: "I'm very sorry for the words I said. My words were very hurtful and disrespectful."

If you've been told to "just wait," or you're wondering whether your adult children will ever come back, this conversation is the living proof that they can. And it gives you a philosophy and a framework for surviving the wait.

IN THIS CONVERSATION:

The two types of parental alienation — legally imposed separation vs. the quiet, psychological erosion that's often more devastating
Why Jon chose not to divorce until his kids were out of high school — and whether, looking back, that was the right call
The prodigal son framework: how Jon made peace with not chasing his children — and what 'waiting with open arms' actually costs a parent emotionally
What his daughter said the moment she reached out — and why Jon didn't pull his punches in their first conversation
How reconciliation with one adult child is opening a possible door with a second — while a third may be permanently enmeshed with their mother
Why Jon refused to badmouth his ex to his children — even after years of alienation — and why he believes that was the single most important thing he did
What he says to the client who says: 'If one more person tells me the kids will just figure it out, I'm going to lose my mind'

GUEST INFO:

Jon McKenzie
Male Victims of Female Narcissists
https://malevictimsoffemalenarcissists.com
Jon's Instagram: @malevictimsoffemalenarcissists