Been There Got Out Podcast
Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that.If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based on one's years of success (representing myself in court!), coupled with the other's High Conflict Divorce Coach certification.Our podcast features interviews with lawyers, therapists, co-parenting coordinators, guardians ad litem, and other subject matter experts, as well as other content, all with one goal in mind: Let us teach you how to HELP YOURSELF!
Episodes
344 episodes
Your Child Isn't Lying. They're Code-Switching. Here's What That Means.
Your child cried at your house about how much they hate going to their other parent's home. Then you found out they had a great time. Or they came home from your ex's house perfectly happy, when you expected them to be upset. Or they told you o...
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Season 2026
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Episode 345
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31:44
Can a Horse Heal Your Trauma? Equine Therapy for Divorce & Narcissistic Abuse
When Kasia Bukowska's horses refused to cooperate, she thought she was failing. What she discovered instead changed everything she understood about trauma, healing, and why we stay stuck. Kasia is a Polish equine-assisted therapist...
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Season 2026
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Episode 344
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43:10
Polygraph Tests & Custody Battles: What Every Falsely Accused Parent Must Know
No one believes you. You've said it in every room. To every professional. To the judge, the GAL, the CPS worker. You didn't do this. The allegations are false. And yet — somehow — your children are not with you. &nbs...
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Season 2026
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Episode 343
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40:41
Co-Parenting with a Toxic Ex Won't Break You (Here's the Science of Why)
You know you shouldn't react. You know exactly what your ex is doing when they push, bait, violate the court order, or put the kids in the middle. You've read the articles. You've heard about grey rock. You're smart — you've built a career, rai...
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Season 2026
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Episode 342
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47:13
Why You Can't Be Calm Around Your Narcissist Ex (and How to Finally Change That)
There's a moment most people in our community know well. Your phone lights up with a message from your ex. Or you're sitting in the parking lot outside the courthouse. Or you're on the phone with your attorney and your voice starts shaking....
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Season 2026
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Episode 341
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44:53
How to Use a Business Valuation to Force Your Ex to Settle Faster
If your spouse owns a business — or if you co-own one together — your divorce just got significantly more complicated. The business isn't just a job. It's potentially a marital asset, a hidden income source, and a leverage point all at once. An...
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Season 2026
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Episode 340
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23:10
Protecting Your Children: What Every Parent Should Know About Sexual Abuse & Trauma
Sara Vandenburg brings a perspective you won't find anywhere else: she's both a highly credentialed therapist specializing in childhood sexual abuse AND a survivor who has done the deep healing work to talk about her own experience "like the we...
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Season 2026
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Episode 339
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42:01
Fear vs. Intuition: How to Know Your Gut is Right After Gaslighting
Making critical decisions in high-conflict divorce when you can barely trust your own judgment? This interview is essential viewing. After experiencing gaslighting, manipulation, and betrayal in a toxic relationship, many people st...
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Season 2026
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Episode 338
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38:38
Healing From Betrayal Trauma: Research-Backed Recovery Stages
"I'll never trust again."That's what Lisa thought after discovering the truth about her nearly 20-year marriage—the serial affairs, the unprotected sex that put her health at risk, the father-in-law who helped finance the betrayals whil...
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Season 2026
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Episode 337
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34:03
Does My Child Need Therapy During Our Divorce? Play Therapist Answers
Is your child struggling with your separation or divorce? Wondering if they need professional help? Licensed play therapist Jenny Hornby joins Lisa to discuss the critical signs that children need therapeutic support during high-conflict divorc...
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Season 2026
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Episode 336
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43:40
What Custody Evaluators Actually Look For (From an Attorney Who Does Them)
🎯 "What does a custody evaluator actually look for?"If you're terrified of your upcoming custody evaluation, attorney Tracy Galloway has the answer—and it might not be what you think.Tracy has been a Massachusetts child custody ...
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Season 2026
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Episode 335
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52:51
Why You Should Try Mediation with a Narcissist (Even When Everyone Says Don't)
🎯 "Mediation? With a NARCISSIST? Are you crazy?"If that's your reaction, you're not alone. Most people in high-conflict divorce assume mediation is pointless when dealing with someone who has a personality disorder or active addiction.<...
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Season 2026
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Episode 334
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38:43
Trauma Bonds Explained: Why You Keep Attracting Narcissists
"I finally got out of that toxic relationship! I'm never doing that again!"Six months later: Same person, different body.If this pattern sounds familiar, you're not alone—and according to trauma therapist Sherry Gaba, it's not y...
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Season 2026
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Episode 333
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33:12
You're Not "Just Anxious." You're Validation Addicted (And Here's What to Do)
🎯 "If I don't get validation from my partner (or - yikes - my ex), I can't function. I'm a mess unless I get that feedback, that positive reinforcement."That's validation addiction, and according to Ralph Brewer, founder of Help for Men...
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Season 2026
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Episode 332
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27:21
When Your ADHD or Special Needs Child Is Weaponized Against You in Court
🎯 **"90% of families with special needs children end up divorcing. And when they do, those children become incredibly vulnerable to gatekeeping behaviors that can lead to parental alienation."**Ashish Joshi—one of our most frequently ci...
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Season 2026
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Episode 331
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40:26
The Long-Term Effects of Parental Alienation: An Adult Child's Perspective
🎯 "Just pretend they are dead."That's what a psychiatrist told Steven Eichenblatt's biological father—advice he followed when he dropped seven-year-old Steven and his twin sister off one day and never came back.Steven is now an ...
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Season 2026
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Episode 330
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44:35
Living Bereavement: Processing Grief When Your Child Turns Against You
🎯 "Loss is loss. And we lose not only loved ones, but we lose a lot of different aspects in our life. Losing a child through disconnection... that is a really serious aspect of grief."Jock Brocas—spiritual medium, psychologist researche...
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Season 2026
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Episode 329
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50:26
Can My Kids Be OK? A Divorce Therapist Who's Been There Explains
🎯 "I couldn't sleep. I couldn't eat. It was all because of what I was doing—what we were doing—to my kids."If that sounds familiar, this conversation is for you.Jill Barnett Kaufman is a licensed therapist, divorce coach, certif...
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Season 2026
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Episode 328
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27:08
Overwhelmed by Divorce Paperwork? A Life Coach's Strategies for Managing the Chaos
🎯 If divorce paperwork makes you want to crawl under your desk and never come out, you're not alone—and you're not broken.Jorie Houlihan, a certified life coach specializing in ADHD (and diagnosed herself at age 49), explains why so man...
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Season 2025
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Episode 327
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40:47
Art Activities for Kids in High-Conflict Divorce: Processing Without Pressure to Talk
🎯 If your child is drowning in anxiety from family stress and you're tired of adding more therapy appointments, this conversation will open new possibilities. Brian Barry, Program Manager at Clay Art Center in Port Chester, NY, exp...
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Season 2025
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Episode 326
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21:51
Reversing Parental Alienation When Your Kids Are Adults
🎯 If your adult child has cut contact and you think it's too late, this interview will change everything.Ginger Gentile, director of the documentary "Erasing Family" (free on YouTube), has helped reunite 180 families—including cases where paren...
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Season 2025
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Episode 325
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45:41
Demystifying Family Court with Insight & Humor
Danny Karon, fondly known as "your lovable lawyer," offers a fresh perspective on the legal system by championing accessibility and empowerment. In this enlightening conversation, Danny shares his journey and mission to demystify legal complexi...
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Season 2025
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Episode 324
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28:23
Guiding Kids Through Through the Turmoil of High-Conflict Divorce
What if the child who seems to have it all together is actually struggling the most? Join us as we sit down with Colorado therapist Stacy Schaffer, who offers her expertise on the hidden emotional battles children face during parental conflict ...
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Season 2025
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Episode 323
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19:16
Navigating Trust and Betrayal in Military Marriages
Dr. Elizabeth Polinsky, a distinguished psychologist and marriage and family therapist, returns to share her invaluable insights on one of the most challenging issues faced by military couples: infidelity. With infidelity rates climbing by 22% ...
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Season 2025
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Episode 322
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41:56
The Transformative Power of Confidence in Relationships
Comedian and relationship coach Paul Roseberry joins us for a candid chat about the transformative power of confidence in relationships. Discover the "security method," a fresh perspective on understanding personal worth and the courage to walk...
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Season 2025
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Episode 321
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29:10